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Biography - VL - Leonardo da Vinci: One of the Greatest Thinkers in History -

08/24/2011 Leonardo da Vinci: One of the Greatest Thinkers in History I'm Steve Ember. And I'm Shirley Griffith with EXPLORATIONS in VOA Special English.

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Lanh Nguyen commented on 04 Dec 2012

VOA is my most favorite way to learn American English, and I do love all accents of all announcers. A great thank to VOA!

sebastiao mendonca commented on 16 Oct 2015

Tao inspirado Quanto da Vinci esta sendo o trabalho de voa special English. com. muito bom

sisounthone thongthep commented on 03 Oct 2015

i often follow voa program . thanks

edge magar commented on 29 Oct 2015

its easy to get the ideas

Sun Sun Tung commented on 29 Sep 2015

Thank you very much!

ListenAndReadAlong commented on 12 Dec 2012

Thanks for the comment

032 VL Christian & Oliver - (2010-12-07)

Christian and Olli ask Charlie and Rebecca for their help but are not amused when they won't stop giving well-meant advice. To watch with subtitles, press the ...

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taknidentity1 commented on 08 Dec 2010

@egoldston100 C has always been a bit taller than O. I don't think Thore grew during the course of Chrolli, he's way too old (26) to still be going thru puberty. As the epiphyseal cells stop duplicating at the end of puberty [boys, range 13-18yrs~], no more growth occurs. I just think their height difference is more noticeable now cuz of their shoes, C wears boots, & O wears flat sneakers AND cuz of their different haircuts compared to before. C's hair is a fluffball [volume] vs O's close-crop.

coyleJ commented on 08 Dec 2010

Danke, danke, danke MAY!!!!!! You are a star, this episode was FANTASTIC!!! I was so happy to see Christian holding baby Lilly at the start, so cute and loved that he has the rattle keychain on his jeans - how adorable!! Having a child is new to Chrolli and I think its great that the writers have addressed this in this way, they just need a little time to adjust and get a new routine going, and they will be fine :) - not sure about the bike ride though!!! Charlie and Rebbeca do care, but I feel

MercuryMay01 commented on 08 Dec 2010

@nalunelly Yes, Andi and Helena are still living there. Tristan tried to kill Andi, they fought in the woods (t'was all very dramatic), both got hurt badly. Andi recovered some and while Tristan, in a near death experience, was fighting with his inner evil twin (and chatting with his deceased mom), Andi thought about letting Tristan die. He then decided to help him after all. Tristan's at the hospital now (evil twin seems to be gone). Tristan confessed to Helena, Andi's the hero of the day.

BDRoland commented on 08 Dec 2010

OK let's see if I can fit this all in one thing... Poor Consti being in the middle of Charlie and Rebecca (5:09) but what was with Christian's sudden reaction toward's them (3:36)? I mean they just baby-sat and now he's giving them grief! No matter how cute you may be Christian, esspecially at 1:43 and 6:25, it doesn't give you an excuse to be a jerk. Unless you need to take a note from Lilly at 0:14 and use your own sucking reflex... on Olli >:)

shak15ti commented on 08 Dec 2010

Interesting comments. A very lucky child surrounded with soooo much love. New parents always have to fight a bit with family for their child care etc. In RL it happens. Male/Female no difference. As Ivan wrote, they will all work out the boundaries in time, if the show allows. This could be boring for the ones wanting singles sex but some people will love the handling of the peek inside the becoming parents outside the stereotypical.

Thunderkat commented on 08 Dec 2010

damn... i was so anti this story line but that baby! I kind of adore how possessive the boys are Lol, wow, that was actuallysome genius writing w. Christina Brandner's first words CANNOT stop watching 1:42!!! and by my count that is the FOURTH love bite by Christian mann... grrowwll my poor consti, i miss his muffin laden expressions of joy... Thank you MM!! you're the best!! (PS.. that baby is SO in love with Jo, it's ridiculous)

scarpien commented on 09 Dec 2010

@deepdarkmidnight. If you remember, Sebastian tried everything in his power to suppress the fact that he was Christina's father in the beginning so Lydia wouldn't find out. So, he obviously didn't care who's name the baby took as long as it wasn't his. Now he's declaring all over the place that he's Christina's father! Little does he realize he's only the sperm donor; Matthias IS Christina's father in every sense of the word.

coyleJ commented on 08 Dec 2010

post continued--->they are being a bit over the top, esp. with Constantin, poor bloke!!! ;) - The bite & kiss was INCREDIBLE and I too, have watched this part countless times, its just so great!!! Is it just me or are Christian & Olli looking hotter and secier than ever these days!!!! Baby Lilly is so adorable as always, loved Olli putting the cream on her face......this episode just had it all!!!! ~ CHROLLI FOREVER!!!

Paulie2906 commented on 08 Dec 2010

@BDRoland Come on, Rebecca and Charlie were being a bit ridiculous, first complaining that Lily was wrapped up too warm and then saying it was too cold for a bike tour. On top of that Christian literally had to wrestle the stroller away from them. Then that conversation with Consti where they wanted him to to tell them that the boys couldn't cope? There is a big difference between being helpful and plain interfering.

phb85 commented on 11 Dec 2010

little Lilly is so cute and both Christian and Olli make a good job as daddies the bite-kiss was so sweet, it shows the amazing chemestry between Thore and Jo I could understand Christians reaction, but maybe he should choose other words ;-) and Chapeau for Constantin and Lydia, they are so right: Chrolli have to deal first alone with the problems of parenthood Charlie and Rebecca: the interrogation was to much

JRRDPR commented on 20 Jul 2012

I dont see your problem.usually I am totally not interested in lesbain scenes either because i dont care to see 2 women making out or the actresses playing them are not hot enough either way.but Rebecca and Miriam seemed totally hot to me and watching their story was actually meaninful in my eyes.Sorry if you couldnt see that but you cant even complain for it was not heavily included in the Chrolli story.:-)

blair knight commented on 09 Dec 2010

Christian worrying about if Lily was drinking too much is very sweet of him. It is understandable that both him and Oliver will be concerned over the slightest thing with her but they are just going to worry themselves sick :( I am glad Charlie is part of Lily's life to calm christian and oliver down with that. She will be a wonderful grandmother. Lily will certainly have plenty of love. :)

IvanIV05 commented on 08 Dec 2010

It's all OK, Charlie wants to be in Lily's life and wants to help, she's practically her grandma. And Olli and Christian can use her help. They just have to find a reasonable compromise when help is really a help and not interference with every single decision. And when it happens anyway, it's not because someone is bossy, they just want to help too much.

Shawn Peterson commented on 12 Feb 2011

Ok first things first: Olli should ALWAYS wear RED. that red shirt looks so good on him. and his ass in those jeans! "drools" I've also been loving the clothes that they been having Christine wear lately. Everything shows off his ass nicely. Chris still has the best ass on this show, hands down, but Olli's isn't that far behind.

036 VL Christian & Oliver - (2010-12-15)

To watch with subtitles, press the small CC button under the video. No spoilers! Christian and Olli try to manage work, babysitting, sleep and other things.

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MercuryMay01 commented on 16 Dec 2010

@paolfey Actually, it isn't hard. Nanna's last subbed vid included Oct 5th. Starting with Oct 8th I've put all my vids with embedded subs up on Mediafire for download (see link in my profile or in the info boxes of the vids). This was only ever supposed to be a temporary solution (who knew temporary would turn out to be this long), and I don't want to put them up on YT cause I'm not sure what Nanna's prepared to do when she gets back; we haven't talked about it yet. It's obviously her decision.

jarabaa commented on 16 Dec 2010

@Alicia11AA That's an interesting comment. You feel Christian's body language is cold... Most people seem to think it's warm, even passionate. I can't judge - so I'm interested in what you say. He kisses Olli occasionally and says romantic things, as you point out. But you think he's "waaaay freezing" otherwise. Where do you see/sense the coldness? Is it that he holds himself at a distance - or he seems tense? I haven't been paying attention so I'm curious to hear what you've been observing.

Alicia11AA commented on 16 Dec 2010

Now it's clear the reason for their height difference ,while Olli's sneakers are totally flat Chris' boots are at least 5cm.-heeled. Btw, is this SL so boring that I'm paying attention to this sort of things? I can't help feeling that Thore/Chris is as affectionate as an iceberg, I loved to see Olli/Jo with a guy as handsome as Chris but waaay more passionate, I mean Chris' lines are lately more romantic and warm but his body language is waaaay freezing. Thank you dear May, you're great!!

coyleJ commented on 16 Dec 2010

Thanks so much May, after having a bad day, this made me so happy!!! This was such a cute episode, with lovely touching scenes - LOL at Christian, 'Who needs beauty sleep, when he's as good looking as me', pity Olli was too tired to have some lovin' on the couch, but I loved Christian's snoring comment and saying 'oh, you're so cute when you're lying'. The little Chrolli touches and glances were subtle but great too - but the ending, trouble in Chrollilly paradise???? ~ CHROLLI FOREVER!

man2manva commented on 17 Dec 2010

I'm surprised at the comments referencing Christian as being too "cold." I really don't see that at all. His personality is just different; he has always been the more somber of the two. These two guys do an incredible job of portraying a gay couple completely in love with one another! I'm sure it's not a sexual thing, but they do seem to have an incredible bond with one another personality wise off the camera as well as on. I think this adds tremendous credibility to the story line.

shak15ti commented on 18 Dec 2010

@JessiLynn83 Good Call!!! The acting Thore has to pull out of his hat for this is tricky because of the shadings required. Christian had a terrible life until shortly before meeting Oliver. Family dynamics changed soooo many times until he found security with Oliver. Thore has to try to let you know the painful wrench this is for Christian facing the inevitable. That is a difficult balance because Christian is more reserved than Olli but feels DEEPLY!!!

shak15ti commented on 19 Dec 2010

@JessiLynn83 Christian and Oliver are both strong but in different ways. Christian knows Olli's strength & vice versa. I agree with everything else. It requires more strength than I have to live as Olli does. He blows in like a force of nature and rolls with his punches. Christian gets there with Olli but he thinks about it first, as the writers put in the dialogue here. HOWEVER, the prison time proves that he will think & then act seriously.

LoverAfterDaz commented on 16 Dec 2010

Aww the tired little daddies.These Lily episodes have been so adorable.I just love them taking care of that little cutie..I think paternity suits them :D... But i would have liked if that moment 3:25---> had gone forward ;DD But anyway,that was cute..And what comes to Becky,who appeared in this episode like in every single episode,isn't so awful bitch anymore..I think that her situation with Miriam has made me accept her :)

plumctplactzoom commented on 16 Dec 2010

May, dear, thank you so much for giving us a night with Chrolli! Love the day by day with a baby episode of today! It wil be like this for sometimes but, we, Chrolly friends that have chilsdren, know tha it will pass and Lilly will sleep sooner or later and then our boys are going to really enjoy their nights together in an imaginable way and make our (fans) nights priceless!! thank,you again! kisses, sweetie!!

thirteenchild commented on 16 Dec 2010

Danke May as always :) That's so true... the chemistry between them is absolutely perfect, Christain&Olli can make the simple situation ADORABLE, have no idea HOW they do it... but it is amazing...which means Thore&Jo is the GOODDDDDD actor. I believe it's rarely to find the actor that perfect together as Chrolli, the writers of VL is so great too... love them :) CHROLLI FOREVERRRRRRRRR

scarpien commented on 18 Dec 2010

@JessiLynn83. I know what you mean. Christian has to guard his heart because, as Shak15ti said, he feels so deeply; wounds hurt more and last longer with him than Olli. Olli wears his heart on his sleeve and loves like he's never been hurt before/will never be hurt again, so that factors into his taking more risks in just about all aspects of his life, especially with love.

dinard38 commented on 25 Jul 2015

Awwwww....this was a cute episode. "Who needs beauty sleep when you're as good looking as me." Haha...cute, Christian. I also liked how Olli took the baby with him to let Christian sleep. Very thoughtful. This and the affection they show each other throughout the episode. By the way, Olli looks good in that yellow shirt and wife beater laying on the couch. :-)

Thunderkat commented on 16 Dec 2010

Holy Sh&T Rebecca said something useful for once! that is so true olli, things don't run ideally but run flexibly. It kills me to see how immediately upset christian gets at the end, poor baby.... and you know, it would be easier for the boys to get it on if... THEY GOT THEIR DAMN BEDROOM BACK!!!!! *grumble grumble* Thank you May!!! love you!!!

voyer149 commented on 16 Dec 2010

Maybe Thore's girl friend has been complaining that it has been looking to "real" lately, and so they have been putting less kissing in? I doubt this is the reason. I really like this story line, but sometimes I am sad that Christian has had to give up sports. They seem to be resolute in the fact that he will never be going back to that.

108 VL Christian & Oliver - (2011-07-18) - new audio

No spoilers, please!! To watch with subtitles, press the small CC button under the video. You can download this video with the original audio from Mediafire (no ...

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maxxliu commented on 22 Jul 2011

@ellen03100 Can a broken-into-pieces Swan statue be fixed as totally the same as before? Please don't say 'everyone" will see them as the way we all did before, it's too idealistic. It's impossible. I'm sure many of us will see them in a different way after Christian's irresponsible, disgusting acts. Face the fact, somethings in life we just don't do it, not even once, which will place us in a point of no return & regret can't help. Of course, only people who cherish faithfulness will agree.

Vilhum commented on 22 Jul 2011

@PlatypusRising55 Sorry, its been a while since I watched the series, so I dont remember with that many details. What I meant is that Olli wants Christian to beg him. Christian said he was sorry 876543 times, he tried to help him with the crash thing like 3 times and I think Olli said he didnt wanned his help or needed him when was exactly the inverse. Im agree with your 2 last lines. But not in this case, at least not the way they handled it in here. lol find it funny the way we discuss this

ellen03100 commented on 22 Jul 2011

@maxxliu Maybe I'm just blinded by all of Christian's act, maybe I just see Christian and Olli as the way they were before, and a part of me just can't let go, a part of me just want them back together, and a huge part of me demands it. I's just that they've been through so much together and throwing it away would be a waste. Yeah, somethings in life, but this is a soap, everything is possible in it. Maybe the writers will bring them back in a way that everyone can see Christian like before.

minsu1110 commented on 16 Dec 2012

Some part of me wish chrolli didnt get back after christian's heart attack. they cud be civil with each other afterwards & wants to get back together but cant. I kinda like it if they show us how they miss each other, mke them realize how important the other one is to them. A liltle waiting, agony and tiptoeing doesnt hurt... dey shud stop sleeping with other people & start being best friends again like in the past..be faithful even without being required to just because they are married.

Platypus Rising commented on 24 Jul 2011

@maxxliu Theresa isn't watching the show, How the hell is she supposed to know what Christian's status is? He didn't act like he was unavailable. In fact, he acted like his ring was just a decoration. He kept calling Olli his "ex" to her and didn't even acknowledge that he was STILL married until after he had sex with her. I'm not saying I like her but as far as SHE knew, Christian was single and available and just having "ex" issues. We, the viewers, have more information than Theresa.

gwenpookie commented on 26 Jul 2011

@tammyvrba I agree with u a little...Not seeing Olli kissing Christian is hard, but...thats life...Olli is hurting and the best way to get over the hurt and the man that caused the hurt is to get under another one... Olli, needs this, even if its just for a while...just to fill happy and wanted. Even if its fake or temporary. Olli need to take a good looking man home and piss Christian horny ass off. Maybe then he will stop chasing the kitty and go back to the woody.

Suzana Torres Jaeckal commented on 11 Jul 2012

A pior das distrações que sangram o coração de qualquer um é a traição... Christian não consegue mais trair Olli conscientemente, mas Olli está à procura do "troco"... Será que isso resolve?!! Christian está onde está porque Olli o deixou pra traz e não vê saída pra dizer para Christian o quanto o ama... o quanto precisa dele! Este período da história foi muito ruim, não fiquei bem comigo em nada!!! Foi impressionante como a dor dos dois me afetou!

risapazgria commented on 25 Sep 2012

18? C'mon, Olli...Ok, whatever. It's a fling. I get it. What I'm really bummed about is that they didn't show more of Olli and Rafael. They show Christian and Theresa getting it on, and yes, they do show some hot kisses between Olli and Rafael, but then Olli is just abandoned on the beach, and Rafael doesn't even know where he is the next morning? Nope, didn't like that. For Olli's first time after Christian, I expected something...nicer?... for him.

ClaRa124100 commented on 22 Jul 2011

i went away for only 5 days and now i get such a video? way to go Olli! get distraction you deserve it and rafael is hot as is Emilio and Olli himself..i won't start writing about him shirtless b/c i wouldn't be able to stop also Christian you don't like bras? then call Emilio he does not wear any (is it just me or does he seem closeted^^ -gues i am fantasizing) ps: i love charlie but that text message was out of line

Tammy Vrba commented on 28 Jul 2011

@gwenpookie, Ok I'll buy your explanation for soap characters. But if that's the way real people try to get over relationships...no wonder there is sooooo much dysfunction out there in the world today. Nobody needs another person to make them feel happy. That is something they should do for themselves so that when they finally DO get that special relationship, they are able to give as much happiness back.

lovesspicychicken commented on 02 Sep 2012

It's not Olli's fault at all. Christian cheated on Olli, then expects Olli to completely forgive him immediately after a "sorry". Olli keeps pushing Christian away but that is normal behavior for someone who's been hurt by someone he trusts. Then Christian gives up and sleeps with another woman, in essence, ending the relationship. I'm glad Olli is finding some distraction at least.

ellen03100 commented on 22 Jul 2011

@maxxliu But Christian regrets it, and he's using Theresa as a distraction just like Charlie said, coz Christian feels that he lost Olli forever, it's sort of obvious. I really think that once things turn around, things will be the same again, we will HAVE our Chrolli back and everyone will see them as the way we all did before. We just gotta have faith in those stupid writers!

Mary Tazou commented on 24 Jul 2011

Love these boys to death but I wouldn't mind Ollie flirting with someone else...they need this time apart to get things straight with eachother and in their heads (Christian esp!) and let the writers know that if their reunion is not soon and it's not EPIC I will go to their houses and piss everything they love!!! (Jo when did you get so ripped?! *drooling here*)

abhishek sharma commented on 24 Jul 2013

@minsu1110 , totally agree with you , i personally don't want olli and chris to get back together also didn't said till yet because i don't want to post any spoiler about heart thing , that was the wrong reason to get back together because the problem of which olli wanted the answer remain unsolve unless they made chriss more gay or bi in character wise !!

029 VL Christian & Oliver - (2010-11-29)

Christian and Olli are concerned about Lilly because she's so quiet. Is something wrong with her? To watch with subtitles, press the small CC button under the ...

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d33r81 commented on 20 Dec 2010

if i were a baby,i should have been the 1 olli's holding in his arms,having the most adorable parent like chrolli,i could be the most happiest baby in the world ever,they will share their hugs & kisses with me everyday,aahh.....so wonderful Me: "Daddy Mann,mom Sabel...i'm scared...." Chris: " Oh sweetheart,dn't be scared daddy's here,common let daddy hug u" Olli: " My sweetie....ur daddy's right,u're gonna have 2 kisses from me to shoothe u" me: " yay.......i love u mom&dad....." ( group hugs..)

plumctplactzoom commented on 30 Nov 2010

Awwwwwww! Lovely, lovely lovely! So cute!They are so great parents. All of the chrolli fans who are parents, know that this is what happens. Especially when it comes to the first kid. We worry about anything (If they cry, if they don't , if they eat or not, if the baby is sleeping too much) We just get completely worried about what could happen. Because the only thing we really want is our child to be well. We love them so much that this is all we want. So does Chrolli. Thanks May! Love ya! xx

Bruce Bennett commented on 01 Dec 2010

@MercuryMay01 Hi MercuryMay, I'm not sure if it could help me. Actually, I am more than greatfull for the work you are already doing and would not like to put you out. I do have connection problems where I am in South Africa, and so the best for me is to watch the vids by downloading them first, then I do not get the CC. If I am able to watch live on YT, I can get the CC, my connection that is most often out of the question. I just would like to thank you for keeping us all happy. UR a star.

jarabaa commented on 30 Nov 2010

You know, I'll admit this isn't my personal fave storyline. But I am absolutely not going to rain on ANYONE's parade, because I love all the enthusiastic comments - just about everyone (see below) sounds blissed out. I don't remember so much positive feedback from so many Chrolli fans. It'sgreat to read all the rapturous messages... Having spent the day contemplating a lot of terrible stuff going on in the world, I find it inspiring to enjoy the delight reflected in the comments here.

coyleJ commented on 30 Nov 2010

Vielen vielen dank May! :D - Really LOVED this, so many great moments, from Christian looking lovingly at Olli at the start, to Chrolli's fears over Lily's behaviour, to Olli listening so closely to the baby monitor, to hearing Christian talk to Lily over the monitor - and then the sweet ending with the beautiful Chrolli kiss - it had it all!!! Lily is so adorable, and the guys just look so happy when they are with her, its a pure joy to watch! ~ CHROLLI FOREVER!!!

Talicia Em commented on 03 Dec 2010

0:00- these two are going to be amazing daddies. :) 1:28 aww lookie tht little hand around Oli's neck. so adorable!! 2:25 Awwwww! I can't stop doing tht. This ep is soo cute!! I love seeing thm w/ Lilly!! 3:42-4:00 Chris w/ Lilly, how cute. I bet thts an adorable visual. 4:22 What a sweet little bundle of cute! (Oli and Chris included. haha) Looks to me like Lily's sock is falling off there too. haha 4:50 Aw lookie the sweetiez totes exhaused.

Bruce Bennett commented on 30 Nov 2010

I need to thank you MercuryMay for keeping the Chrolli story alive. I am English speaking, unfortunatly I cannot watch the videos on CC as I need to download them and then watch then due to a slow Internet connection, so the subs do not download with the video, however, I am getting used to German now & can more or less work out the dialogue. Thanks for your work keeping us fans of Chrolli happy.

66FLAV commented on 20 Apr 2011

Both Christian & Olli have good points. At such a tender age the baby is without her biological parents. She needs a loving home wish the guys can provide. However they will fall in love with her & if she is taken away it will be emotionally devastating for all of them. Not sure what I'd do in the situation maybe I'd probable opt to keeping her safe & loved even if it's not forever.

Lonnie Mccalmont commented on 30 Nov 2010

i love these guys, what possitive roll models, i hope they never break up...i think i would cry. They made me cry and happy starting when they first had eyes for each other. I wish they were together in real life. Even tho they spend all there time together, i watched the GOOL interviews and there was a time where Thore almost put his arm around Jo but caught himself. Im jellous

Lonnie Mccalmont commented on 30 Nov 2010

MercuryMay01 commented on 30 Nov 2010

@Lampantetre I've been asked about the subtitles so many times that I'm very sure that 'cc' don't automatically work for everyone. And many people don't read what's in the description box either, so I think it's easiest to just let everyone know with a short comment. But I'm glad it works for you! Hugs back! :)

crazzee247 commented on 29 Oct 2013

ik right? i thought she was from cambodia. hmmm…last time i checked, cambodia wasn't in Africa. again, I'm not being racist or anything like that at all…just wondering! still am in LOVE with O and C. but did anyone catch that look Lilly was serving at the end of the last episode? ahahha i was DYING!

menRmemorable commented on 30 Nov 2010

Happy Belated Thanksgiving to one and all from America. I was like Lilly, I didn't make sound unless it was necessary. Lord knows having a whining and fussy baby is no picnic, my mom told me so when it came to two of my brothers, they would cry for nothing, only to get attention.

mandagrammy commented on 30 Nov 2010

Okay, if these scenes don't melt your heart then you have one that is made of stone. I am looking forward to much more interaction between daddies and Lilly coming up. A huge thank you to MM for the translations which make the scenes even more precious. Hugs, Grammy

025 VL Christian & Oliver - (2010-11-15)

To watch with subtitles, press the small CC button under the video. Christian and Olli have an argument with Sabine - and start considering other options. Playlist ...

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coyleJ commented on 16 Nov 2010

Vielen danke May for the upload and subs! Another great episode - a contract like this is quite common in an arrangement like this (I remember in Brothers & Sisters, Kevin & Scotty having a similar contract with their surrogate Michelle) - but I can fully understand why Chrolli are against such a thing, planning every event in a child's life before its even been born! Looking back over this whole part of the storyline I think VL have done a great job with it - they started off with it being...

Platypus Rising commented on 23 Oct 2011

I agree with Claudia and Sabine. Co-Parenting is not very different than custody arrangement for divorced couples. Having a child means you don't always get to be so spontaneous if you are sharing the parenting with another couple. Those terms seem reasonable and fair. It means that the care for the child won't be affected by what happens with the parents. I don't get why the guys are being so stubborn. Even with a REALLY GOOD FRIEND a contract would be necessary. Christian needs to calm down.

Avidbel2 commented on 16 Nov 2010

Very pleased the boys have ditched the contractual uber mamas and are looking to foster. Much better. I have friends who have fostered for over 20 years and find it rewarding and enjoyable. Their own children have grown up and left the home but the house is still full of children. They've fostered 8 over the 20 year period and ony 3 were short term (less than a year). Two of their charges were with them for 5 years, and that was exceptional. But they loved everyone of them regardless.

luckyduck152 commented on 16 Nov 2010

@Genral48 I'm pretty sure the bathroom set and Chrolli's old bedroom set no longer exist. :( There was a very small bedroom set they were trying to pass off as Chrolli's bedroom a while back, but it seemed like a temporary set. I'd say it's a bad sign that VL the got rid of their bedroom set before they even got married. This tells me they don't have much romance/sexiness in mind for Chrolli anymore. I guess their story now is all about wanting a baby and getting a woman pregnant.

coyleJ commented on 16 Nov 2010

post contd-----> light and funny, and then dramatic - and having Christian and Olli think the hard part was over by deciding to go ahead with C & S as 'mothers' and deciding on Christian as the father, then the reality of the situation kicked in - with the introduction of the contract. I'm all for Chrolli looking after a foster child but as they mentioned at the end - its going to be hard if they do get a foster child and down the line the child is taken away. ~ CHROLLI FOREVER!!!

jarabaa commented on 20 Nov 2010

I've known many gay male couples who've had children. Over the past ... 25 years. Mostly in conjunction with lesbian couples. (Though never with total strangers, as in this storyline!) Generally both men end up becoming fathers, in fact. Plus I've known other types of "surrogacy" arrangements - maybe not legal if they are formalised, but they happen. Plus other men, single & in couples, who have fostered or adopted. It absolutely is not unusual or bizarre.

BDRoland commented on 20 Nov 2010

I certainly hope this is the last we have seen of Claudia and Sabine. I'm sorry but the thought of two couples raising a kid together with that kid going back and forth between households is just a TERRIBLE idea. It's the same as a child going back and forth between divorced couples. As someone who grew up with many of his friends doing just that, I can tell you all of that back and forth (unstability) is not good for a child.

coyleJ commented on 16 Nov 2010

I keep running out of room!! LOVED the hug in the kitchen, it was so romantic and sweet and loving, just perfect. LOL at Christian almost walking into that post, but OMG - he looks soooooooo sexy in those boxers and t shirt and with that bed hair!!! Sexy worry lines - LOL!! Looking forward to seeing what will happen next and hope to get more gorgeous Chrolli moments like these soon!! ~ CHROLLI FOREVER!!!

Thunderkat commented on 16 Nov 2010

LOL! ok, so when Christian is calling for spontaneity..you KNOW that contract has to be VERY restrictive, lol! While the ladies shouldn't have drawn up a contract w. out the boys, the boys (christian) could've reacted juuust a touch more graciously.. at least there was no yelling. and ok.. no kiss..but that hug makes the top 10 chrolli hugs fer sure. Thank you so much for this May!!!

angelarose82 commented on 17 Mar 2011

Isn't that blue t-shirt Christian is wearing the same one Olli has worn several times before? And in notable parts too--when he kisses Rob (parts 268 & 269), when he's sleeping with the bunny (part 278), and when they finally make up for good (parts 292 & 293.) Is it totally wrong that I remember that? It's too cute that they're wearing each other's clothes. :)

plumctplactzoom commented on 16 Nov 2010

May,thank you very much for today's episode. I didn't even wait to leave work i just watched it and it was great! Finally they stop with this crazy idea of sharing a baby with those two( nothing against them) but I always thought Chrolli should find a better solution to have a baby bythemselves, and a foster kid will be great for them. Excellent idea Olli!!

Talicia Em commented on 03 Dec 2010

4:16 'I'f you'd hear me out, your sexy worry lines would be unnecessary.' 'Sexy worry lines?' 'Pretty sexy!' xD That they are. But then again everything is with you Chris. EVERYTHING!! *drools* 5:26 'When do you have to work today? We could go to child protectice services right now.' 'Oli, another good idea, but... did you take something today?' haha xD

Bradley Cooper commented on 28 Nov 2012

Hello! Does anybody know the music from this (but not only) episode?? It starts at 1:50 when Oliver and Christian are talking on the couch about baby. It is beautiful slow music - piano and violin I think and I hear it pretty offten on VL. I hope someone knows this composition... Lots of LOVE for all fans of VL - especially Christian and Olli :)

shak15ti commented on 16 Nov 2010

@danbakana Per previous comments by Mercury May & others, Surrogacy is Illegal/Banned in Germany. That can NOT be an option. I like what they have done and hope for the humor others predict but I see potential of funny, sweet and heartbreak but then I'm an American and our soaps milk every drop of pain potential they can find or make.

048 VL Christian & Oliver - (2011-01-25)

To watch with subtitles, press the small CC button under the video. No spoilers! Christian and Olli are part of Charlie's story today. I haven't cut the first 30 ...

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jarabaa commented on 01 Feb 2011

It's wonderful the way people notice details. These things add so much to Chrolli they become consistent, believable individuals, with their own idiosyncratic habits. Plus they reveal joint characteristics which show them to be a couple. All of which points to good acting and good direction - but also good viewing - truly attentive, affectionate watching. I love reading the comments here... (Meanwhile, Charlie's non-wedding: 30 years ago = 1981. I feel it would be a bit further back in time.)

coyleJ commented on 26 Jan 2011

May, thanks so much! :) - I was thinking with the new format we wouldn't get to see Chrolli interacting with other characters at all, but with this episode and the ep with Helena & Andi the other day - this is a good sign that I was wrong :) - I LOVED how eager Christian was to leave LOL and him saying Olli was nosy! I also enjoyed the way Christian & Olli pulled their chairs in at the same time at the breakfast table - so cute! And we got a mention of the wedding too! :) ~ CHROLLI FOREVER!!!

plumctplactzoom commented on 26 Jan 2011

Thank you May, my angel! Lovely episode today! I kind of understand Charlie story! sometimes in life we take some decisions we think are the right ones, but later we realize that we should have given a chance to that moment, even though by that time we were so young and knowing not much in life! The bottom line is when there is love involved, no matter if with a friend or a romantic thing we should never let the other down, cause we make them suffer and we suffer too. Thank you my dear! xx

jason wojnicz commented on 01 Feb 2011

OK so i have done it... It only took me four days and a couple of German refresher courses but i have caught up! I sat here in front of my computer and watched every episode of Christian & Oliver I could find. From part 1 uploaded and sub by Nana (thank you Nana). I have to say that this has to be one of the most fascinating stories of love I have ever heard and seen. As for team Olli or team Christian... TEAM CHRISTIAN for sure!!!

MercuryMay01 commented on 28 Jan 2011

@alitheal06 Arno Brandner has been a part of Verbotene Liebe since episode 1 (this is episode 3769), just like Charlie. VL has had the Brandners fighting with the aristocratic family from day one. Right now he's the only one left. Lydia is his only relative in Düsseldorf, but ever since she married Sebastian she's a von Lahnstein and living at the castle. Oh, and he has once been married to Elisabeth (Ludwig's wife).

menRmemorable commented on 27 Jan 2011

I'm w/you @PlanetM4, Arno being apart of the Chrolli family, I was always fond of Arno and still is. That's was a touching story about Charlie, at least we get to know a little bit more of her and her life. Chrolli was too shabby themselves, even though at the beginning Olli was getting on Charlie's nerves to open the package, he still remains in my book a sweetie. Again thank you May for taking over.

scarpien commented on 28 Jan 2011

LOL @ Christian's "you old castle ghost" remark!! He says the funniest things. And Olli more excited to see what was in Charlie's package than she was. So cute. You'd think it was addressed to him. I glimpsed a pic of Charlie in her "younger hippy days." She was, and still is, a hottie. She has no reason to regret not marrying Peter because if her heart wasn't in it at the time it just wasn't.

bel7003 commented on 26 Jan 2011

Lovely episode. It's great to see that Charlie has a life, too. She's not just Olli's aunt.And i loved the interaction between our boys. And Arno, too.Loved the look Olli gave Christian when they mentioned the wedding. (sigh!) BTW, Luca also brakes glasses? Maybe someone should pair him up with Miri. That would be one hot couple, except for the glass department. Thank you, MM. You're the best.

frottguy commented on 26 Jan 2011

So excited.. just about to start watching after waiting all day yesterday. I just caught up with the latest few episodes this past weekend so I was not used to waiting for my dose of Chrolli. :) May, don't get me wrong: I really appreciate all your work in bringing Chrolli to us English speakers. Thanks!

Claude Jones commented on 26 Jan 2011

It is enjoyable to see how they intigrate Chrollie into everyday life as a couple even though since marriage affection is low between them. why r there no other gay couples with a kid that could share their lives and stories with on the show that would be something no one else has tried

phb85 commented on 26 Jan 2011

thanks May that was a cute episode the nosy Olli an Christian who tries to stop him then the look to Christian while Charlies story the 4 of them were so good together, the whole interaction was so good funny was, that Olli already knows Marlene, yeah Olli and his gossip-magazins ;-)

sfvniceguy commented on 26 Jan 2011

@briankinneybrother, But it was the Chrolli LOVE story that made this couple a worldwide phenomenon, not the Chrolli parenting story. They can be parents but still be affectionate with each other and actually make love from time to time. I miss that in this story arc.

ZamTx1 commented on 26 Jan 2011

Always good to see Charlie and Arno put to good use, and for Charlie to finally have something resembling a story. Her last one was with Stella, which is a waste of Dr. Metzger's talents. Glad the non-Lahnstein family unit was able to get some screen time.

MercuryMay01 commented on 27 Jan 2011

@userplayboy You have to enable closed captions to watch the video with subtitles. Just press the small cc button under the video. The vid is also available for download with embedded subtitles (see link in the video info box).

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