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TCRT #322, a restored PCC car in Minneapolis
The PCC car was commissioned in the 1930s by the Electric Railway Presidents Conference Committee, which understood that the old, boxy trolley cars were ...
True, the older Peter witt or Nearside cars were boxy, yet, in the larger
cities like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit with over a Million
in population, the older peter witt cars were undeniably more dependable
and vertually indestructable. My mothers uncle was a PTC motorman here in
Philly durung the 40's on a heavily used line that served the Naval base,
and that line carried men on shift work, those older- boxy street cars
moved the masses, and left no one on a dark streetcorner.
I recall that in the '60s the M'pan-Ashmont line had mostly ex-Dallas
double end PCCs. There were all-electrics like TCRT 322 on M'pan-Ash and
Huntington Av lines. The cars now on the M'pan line were on the Green Line
in the '60s. There were also "picture window" PCCs ~ looked ideal for a/c,
which they didn't have. Those were mostly on the Riverside and Beacon St
lines. All were built by Pullman-Std. You'd like "PCC Cars of Boston
1937-67" by Bradley Clarke; a great book. Thanx for your note!
Your welcome Cleo, there's a clip you can view on youtube, type in
'Philadelphia streetcars 1951" a viewer posted it, it shows the line that
ran on Market street under the Elevated in West Philly, it also shows the
old Subway-surface line exit and the old trestle that carried both the
subway and the trolleys over the Skuylkill river, also the surface car stop
in front of the Pennsylvania RR's 30 th. Street station with the old
section of Elevated that was removed in 1956 in the background.
The mid-50s Public Service design was still the rule in the mid 60s, when I
"discovered" the city subway. At that time the cars were impeccably
maintained, the paint was shiny inside and out, and there were no visible
blemishes, rust nor corrosion. Two versions of that paint scheme
(blue/white; grey/white) were also applied to their huge fleet of GMC
transit buses from the 40s and 50s - it looked as good on those as on PCC
cars (which had the grey scheme).
That's very true, and I think it's a big part of why a lot of those old
cars survived so long even if they were seen as outdated, noisy and bumpy.
Peter Witts, Nearsides, Type 5s in Boston, Gate Cars in MSP - whatever they
were in each city before the era of modern standardization, those cars were
durable and reliable. Fortunately, that's also why they make good operating
museum pieces in the twenty-first century. Thanks for posting that,
Italobambino.
That is truely a gorgeous restoration in Minneapolis. The Golden Glow
headlight and chrome headlight wings look great. I tried to get N. J.
Transit to do a car up in the original Minneapolis scheme and lettering,
but they never did. There are still six PCC cars in storage in New Jersey.
I was successful in getting them to paint and letter one in the mid 1950's
Public Service scheme.
As a kid I was always impressed how quiet they were: they would just glide
past (as long as they weren't making a tight turn). PCC trolley cars are
still being used in Philly to this day, and the current cars have air
conditioning and a nice new interior with cloth-covered seats. The PCC is a
seemingly near-perfect rail car and I wish there were more of them.
Hello Cleo, thnks for your reply, I will give you a little tip, type in the
youtube browser, "Philadelphia Streecars 1951" it will be to your liking,
it is a clip showing some of Philly's old street scenes from the early
50's, it captured the Elevated in West Philly and a few of the street car
lines running in West Philly near and under the Elevated.
Those were (are) really good cars. I first rode the Newark City Subway in
the '60s. Another YouTuber named joesavana has posted a movie of the Newark
City Subway in the '80s, when the stations still had their very old
original signs and such. Well worth a look, you' like that.
I ride the MBTA's original Mattapan PCC's every day on my way to work. They
are great trains and were recently restored to include an AC unit on each
train!(summer afternoons were brutal!) Great vid!
Great to see the old PCCs. Between 1987 and 1990 I commuted on those same
PCCs that Newark, NJ bought from Minneapolis, and they continued to be used
until 2001!
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A ride in a PCC car in Minneapolis
A view from what was always my favorite seat in the streetcar when I was a kid: right behind the front door, so I could watch where we're going. The streetcar is a ...